what do u mean tremendous exercise? i always try and ive got a pool (but its winter soon) and a treadmiull but i cant be bothered. could u tell me what u did to exercise and how long it took? and would be interested in a page im thinking of organising, if someone has had success in a weight loss method, well post their ideas with before and after photos to inspire and motivate people. i think ud be great! tell me what u think